For the first time in the history of World of Warcraft. Patch 1.11.2: Patch 1.12.1. Talents and items can further modify those values. World of Warcraft Arena World Championship. More Competitions. Select one talent per tier. Some talent options may vary depending on your specialization.

Let's link this thread at anyone who whines about bringing Vanilla raiding back. I would not inflict these talent trees on anyone. Did they bring out the BC talents a few months before BC?

Because I don't even remember these trees and I had an orc hunter at ~40 when BC came out and I know I wasn't one of those noobs that didn't even realize we had talents (was still a noob though.) I do remember looking at trees on my paladin as well (he was ~35) and picking holy because 'holy shock looked like good dps ability' lol. Also thought I saw Avenger's Shield but maybe that was after BC came out. There have been quite a few patches that tweaked talents; including some complete redesigns of certain class-trees. The official site has the original patch notes: Warrior + Warlock Hunter Druid Paladin Priest Mage + Shaman Rogues I might have missed some in there too. Wow.Hunters really DID have Lacerate. Actually,looking at Surv tree back then,imho it was kinda possible for melee hunters to do.some dps.

I was looking at that too. The Survival tree was a melee tree. I'm actually checking out how the Survival tree is a big contradiction. It was a melee and trap tree. Isn't the biggest point of traps is to gain distance from your target?

No need for that when you are meleeing. 'Twas a survivability tree, as the name implies. You need to be able to defend yourself when people get up close and personal and you need to utilize your traps. Don't bother trying to get the old trees to make sense, heh.:-P. I vaguely remember Precision in the paladin prot tree... Sonic Youth The Destroyed Room Rar. And after looking at it I really think Blizzard wanted Shamans to tank, but scrapped the idea without fixing the talents.